To meditate on, or simply to reflect!

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It is a Sufi woman who recounts:

Scientists conducted experiments on ants. They observed that the organization of work in the ant colony was highly structured. It
There was the queen, who laid the eggs, the nurses, who fed her, the housekeepers, who cleaned, and the masons, who built and repaired.
the workers, who were looking for provisions, the soldiers, who were guarding the ant colony… However, 10% of the ants, not only
did nothing, but hindered the work of others, getting in the way and sometimes even undoing what others had done. The researchers,
So, they removed the troublesome 10%, thinking they would improve the overall functioning. Alas! Instead of increased order, there was panic. The ants were running
In every sense, they were getting back inside… After a while, the anthill reformed, and activities resumed. The roles had been redistributed.
Each one apparently had its place. And… once again, 10% of the ants spent all their time hindering the work of the others! The researchers began again
three times. In each experiment, they observed that once the 10% "obstructionists" were removed, there was disorganization and panic.
Every time the ant colony resumed functioning, 10% of the new ants had taken on the role of obstructing the work of others.

What is perhaps – the narrator added – to be set against the following little story: A guru was leading a group of disciples who wished
to progress "on the path". One of the group members was constantly asking questions, interrupting, and challenging, in short, hindering the work of the others.
These others came to find the guru and asked him to expel the troublemaker. “I am willing, if that is your wish…,” the guru replied.

… but which of you wants to take his place?

Hello Philippe!
I really liked this little story, but I’m not entirely in agreement!!
In my opinion, a person who disrupts a meeting, a group, or a conversation, as you so well put it, disrupts many people and, above all, disrupts life!!!
I do believe that in this world there is room for everyone and that every being makes a contribution, however small, to our lives, whether professional, friendly, or even romantic!!!
I do not consider myself any wiser or more intelligent than most beings on this earth, but I believe that dialogue resolves many things and brings a little more gentleness into the world.
I’m going to tell you here what just happened, quite recently, in my professional life.
I am currently not in very good shape, and on top of that, two of my employees are currently on maternity leave. Being a small team, I am left with only one person who knows the work that needs to be done, which is far from enough! I am aware that I cannot move forward on my own, and now that person has also fallen ill. What am I supposed to do?!
I watched, observed, and made decisions to assign tasks to the substitute employees, but I must tell you that I did not want to hurt anyone or give more to one than to the other, yet I am aware that some are better suited than others for certain tasks, and that each has many qualities, though different ones.
The last employee who returned had more responsibilities than the others, and from the very next day, a rather heavy atmosphere weighed on this small team, along with a great deal of sadness on some faces.
I took the whole day so that everyone could find their place and their smile.
I explained the reasons behind my decisions regarding certain responsibilities I assigned and congratulated each of them on their work, but there is still one disruptive person on this team. However, with each of her remarks or bad moods, none of us pay any attention to her anymore, as we are all in our place and valued for our work, and we remain centered on ourselves!!!
And I will tell you that since that day, this person has been changing their behavior every day because they realize that this way of reacting no longer disturbs us!!!
Nothing is ever won, but like your story, I do not allow a single person to disturb the lives of others!!!
But through gentleness and by staying centered on our own well-being, I believe we can bring, day by day, a little bit into the lives of these individuals who are disturbed by their personal history and lack of self-confidence, as well as into our own lives!!!
This person has helped a great deal, and vice versa, toward a balance, but in the sense of gentleness rather than brutality, and each day, thanks to her, I personally feel more alive and more in tune with myself.
That's it for this little story!!!
I still have a long way to go, but even if I am sometimes hurt by disruptive people, I try my best to keep deep within me who I truly am, and I must tell you that it is a daily effort, but a truly enriching one.
Because the only true wealth is that of the heart!!!
Best regards, and I look forward to hearing from you!
as well as all of you…

With affection
Marie

Hello Marie, Hello Philippe!

Very wise and full of truth, the text you shared with us, Philippe.

Marie, dear friend, you make me smile so much, I quote you:

I really liked this little story, but I’m not entirely in agreement!!
In my opinion, a person who disrupts a meeting, a group, or a conversation, as you so well put it, disrupts many people and, above all, disrupts life!!!

Okay, I’m willing to accept that, but the rest of your post corroborates Philippe’s. If you hadn’t had a disruptive element on your team, you and the others wouldn’t be where you are in your process:

This person has helped a lot and, conversely, brought a balance, but in the sense of gentleness rather than brutality, and every day, thanks to her, I personally feel more alive and more in tune with myself.

So there you have it, while claiming the opposite, you've just provided evidence of the truth of Philippe's post!

Thank you both for this realization:
If no one came to disrupt us with their inability, their malaise, their questions, and so on, we ourselves would stagnate and not move forward.
Sometimes, simply seeing in others what we would not want to be is enough to make us move forward and progress. Hence its usefulness.

With all my friendship
Best regards

Hello Marie and Mamyol!
Marie, I don't need to give you an answer, Mamyol already gave you one…
Mamyol:
If no one were to disrupt us with their inability, their malaise, their questions, and so on, we ourselves would stagnate and not move forward.
Sometimes, simply seeing in others what we would not want to be is enough to make us move forward and progress. Hence its usefulness.
I completely agree with you, and it is precisely this kind of person who needs our love the most and to whom we should send a lot of light!
But, and yes, with me there is always a “but”; you have only seen one type of disruptor… Revolutionaries have been disruptors of established rules, and there have been peaceful ones…
I will give you another text, which you know but which is so beautiful, that it will reveal yet another facet of disruptors... With all my friendship!
The crab

He shakes his head no
but he says yes with his heart
He says yes to what he loves.
but he says no to the teacher
He is standing.
We question him
and all the problems have been raised
Suddenly, he bursts out laughing.
and it wipes everything
Numbers and words
the dates and the names
Phrases and traps
and despite the master's threats
amid the jeers of child prodigies
with chalks of all colors
on the blackboard of misfortune
He draws the face of happiness

Jacques Prévert.

Yes, it’s just that I remember that poem.

As for disruptive elements… there have always been some…

And as for the 10%, it clearly shows that no one is irreplaceable… that there is a moment of panic and then everything settles down…

To Mamyol, my dear friend, and also to you, Philippe

It is true that I was a bit contradictory in my post; please forgive me. In your post, Philippe had not really analyzed and retained “who wants to replace this disruptive being” in the first place.
It had been so hard to regain a balance that I had kept only this phrase!!
Thank you, Mam, for pointing that out to me!!
The proof of this is that I still need to listen more in order to grow even more!!!
But keep up my heart-fight, not a fight of brutality, even if it’s very hard, don’t give up!!!
Kisses to you
Marie

Oh, if those who post messages on the forum just anywhere and however they please disappeared, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing ;-)))

Hihi, Tom!!!

What humor tonight!
Well, everything would be too orderly and you wouldn't know what to do to please us!

Kisses