Can one have the madness of love, and why does it hurt so much...

Hello everyone…

I would like to have the opinions of both women and men, please.
I kiss you all and to your pens…
I hope to get some answers.
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Good evening Ptitefleure!

"Rage to love" is quite a grand term.
You cannot feel rage when you love.
If we love with such intensity, it’s because somewhere we are lying to ourselves; we are troubled because we are like a child who wants a candy and, when it isn’t given to them, stamps their foot.
But loving without rage is something else; loving is something sublime, something that comes from the heart.
We don't need to shout it from the rooftops or say, "Did you see me?"
We want someone to put us on a pedestal; that is what we feel when we are consumed by the fury of love and it hurts.
Yes, love without rage hurts because it is true love.
It is a love that is like crystal, but loving with rage is different.
It is, of course, a major philosophical debate that is not always easy to discuss.

Kisses and to your pens
The magician.

Hello titefleure

Having the urge to love is being possessive; I think that loving is already difficult.
The heart speaks, the feelings are there, we want to shake up the course of time,
But it is the most beautiful thing that exists; the love between two beings must be pure.
But everyone is different, everyone doesn't feel it the same way as others, love must be
Simple, natural, the one that makes your limbs tremble; as for the rage to love, it is
as if we were tormenting the beloved, yes, love hurts, but if we didn't know it
No, we would have just as much pain. One must live love as it is, without rushing it.
Like a flower, handle it delicately, take care of it for fear it wilts; it must be nurtured with wisdom and patience.

kisses
Marylena

Hello titefleure

The rage to love?

No…

Yes, one can suffer from it, and for various reasons…

Loola

I didn't know what to reply to this thread...
I myself have suffered, like many of us, I suppose…
Here is a text that is not mine but will certainly make you reflect on your sufferings
Happy reading to everyone, and happiness in your hearts.

Kisses

Marie

No one is entirely free from suffering and sorrow. Isn't it about living with it rather than trying to avoid it?
Most of human suffering is unnecessary. We inflict it on ourselves for as long as we unknowingly allow the mind to take control of our lives. The suffering you create in the present is always a form of non-acceptance, an unconscious resistance to what is. On the level of thought, resistance is a form of judgment. On the emotional level, it is a form of negativity. The intensity of suffering depends on the degree of resistance to the present moment, which in turn depends on the degree of identification with the mind. The mind is always seeking to deny the present moment and to escape from it. In other words, the more identified you are with your mind, the more you suffer. It can also be stated thus: the more you are able to respect and accept the present moment, the more you are liberated from pain, suffering, and the mind.
Why does the mind tend to deny or resist the present moment? Because it cannot function and maintain control without time, that is, without the past and the future. It therefore perceives the timeless present moment as a threat. In fact, time and the mind are inseparable.
Imagine the Earth devoid of all human life, hosting only plants and animals. Would there still be a past and a future? Would talking about time still make sense? The question “What time is it?” or “What date is it?”—if anyone were to ask it—would be truly meaningless. The oak tree or the eagle would remain perplexed by such a question. “What time?” they would ask. “Well, of course, it is… now. We are now. Is there anything else?”
Of course, to function in this world, we need the mind as well as time. But there comes a moment when they take control of our lives, and that is when dysfunction, suffering, and grief set in.
To maintain its dominant position, the mind constantly seeks to conceal the present moment behind the past and the future. Consequently, when the vitality and infinite creative potential of the Being, which is inseparable from the present moment, are suppressed by time, your true nature is eclipsed by the mind. An ever-increasing burden of time accumulates ceaselessly in the human mind. All individuals suffer under this burden, yet they continue to add to it each time they ignore or deny this precious moment, or reduce it to a means of reaching some future moment that exists only in the mind, never in reality. The accumulation of time in the human mind, both collective and individual, also contains, in immense quantity, residues of past suffering.
If you no longer wish to create suffering for yourself and for others, if you no longer wish to add to the residues of that past suffering that still lives in you, stop creating time, or at least, do not create more of it than you need to cope with everyday life. How to stop creating time? Become deeply aware that the present moment is all you ever have. Make the present moment the primary focus of your life. Whereas previously you lived in time and paid brief visits to the present moment, make the “now” your primary place of residence and pay brief visits to the past and the future when you need to deal with the practical aspects of your life. Always say “yes” to the present moment. What could be more futile, more insane, than to resist inwardly what already is? What is more mad than to oppose life itself, which is now, always now? Surrender to what is. Say “yes” to life and you will suddenly see it begin to work for you rather than against you.
Eckhart Tolle

Thank you for this text by Eckhart Tolle.

Some people can no longer even enjoy the present, having suffered so much in the past.

The passion for love can also fade or disappear over time.

Good evening

Superb text, Marie. Yes, we must seize the present moment and make the most of it; every second of the time we spend could be the turning point of our future.
It is true that the path of life is a real daily struggle, but let us live each day with the notion that tomorrow will be better, let us stay positive, never look back, and simply say: tomorrow is a new day.

And I return to the passion of loving: love the being in the present moment, do not ask yourself questions, enjoy what life gives you. Naturally, without forgetting to remember that if we encounter love around a corner and whatever happens, live it intensely, do not force it and do not disrupt the destiny of what life has placed on your path.

Marylena

My dear Marylena

Thank you for your comment
I'm sending you lots of kisses :-*

Dear marie59

A very beautiful text, full of thanks

and kisses to you too :-*

my little KAI

Still here! With the good word
Thank you, my beautiful.
so many kisses…

Dear Loola

I suffered too, yes!!
and I know what I'm talking about!
But what I mean by the fury of love is that I had never experienced such love in my life, and it was a warning sign.
So, not this thread, I wanted to know about women who have this thing inside them.
of oneself that hurts in absence and vibrates in presence
Kisses to you

Dear Titefleure

I am happy for you, so make the most of it while you can.

As for me… I’ll leave that to others…

Kisses to you too, Titefleure

Loola

the pain of loving or the fury of loving

It’s about letting go of the barriers, shedding the shells, baring your soul, no longer having any protection, showing your weaknesses, so being vulnerable. That’s why it hurts.
You give the person concerned the ability to do you good or harm.
The other person becomes, in a way, the barometer of your moods and well-being.
And for that, I tell you: LOVE WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THE SUFFERING
We must taste the joys, even if they are fleeting, for there is no happy immortality that we fear not having.
I AM QUOTING THE LETTER TO MENECEE

You must not fear fate.
Suffering is easily bearable
HAPPINESS IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE
AIM TO ACHIEVE THE HEALTH OF THE SOUL

IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO BE HAPPY

      alors nous n'avons plus qu'a vivre et,sentant combien vivre c'est aimer de toute   
      son ame,ne perdons pas le temps d'aimer
      le vent se leve c'est maintenant ou jamais .ne manquez pas votre unique matinee de printemps.

            il nest' donc pas difficile d'aimer sans souffrir s'est tout bonnement impossible aimer implique la souffrance .mais la conclusion vous appartient apres tout vous etes libres

Yes, we are free. And free to make the choices we want.