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My experience

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Hello everyone,

I am going to tell you about my experience with spiritism, which I had more than 20 years ago.

It was the summer of 1984, my brother had gone on vacation to Sardinia, and my son and I were at home. Why am I telling you about my brother! Well, whether by chance, coincidence, or fate, during his stay in Sardinia, my brother met a medium with whom he had a spiritualist experience. Meanwhile, I was staying at my parents' place, and while looking at a bedside table, I found a book titled "The Book of Spirits" by Allan Kardec: this book is a collection, a perspective, and a reality of the entities that came to visit him to inform him about the afterlife: answers provided to us human beings about life after death as well as other lives in the universe... This book belonged to my brother, who had forgotten it... a stroke of luck for me.

On his return from Sardinia, he explains his experience to me, and I tell him about having found an important path for the evolution of my spiritual researches thanks to the book I found. My brother and I are very close, especially when it comes to spirituality.

Having had this experience, he suggested that my husband and I try it ourselves. We did so, setting a date for a Saturday evening, around a round table (at my place), with rather dim lighting, but above all, burning incense (church incense mixed with charcoal and rose petals), a white candle, and most importantly, prayers for protection, as well as asking our guides and God to help us in our search.

I have to admit that I was a bit scared, but at the same time, I was confident about the messages we were going to receive, because I truly believed in it, and that’s an important thing: to believe and not just do it out of curiosity…

We received several spirits, including one who was my brother’s guide and one who was mine… very comforting, reassuring messages, providing fairly accurate information, messages for my son as well as for our spiritual evolution…

We were doing very well, very comfortable, and without any fear or anxiety.

We repeated this experience for several months and then stopped because the circumstances of each of us no longer allowed us to meet up… We always set an appointment with our guide for the following Saturday at a specific time so as not to disturb them at any random time… that was our way of meeting up…

My conclusions are that these sessions brought me a great deal, especially regarding the entities that request prayers to help them ascend, to see a little light, in order to leave this earth where their sufferings were atrocious…

Of course, one should never practice spiritism out of curiosity, as it attracts malicious and negative spirits, but always with a spirit of elevation and messages concerning their world.

Through this experience, I have therefore acquired a surprising gift, automatic writing, and always under conditions of consciousness of their elevation through my prayers… often they ask me to pray for them… car accidents, suicide, serious illness, they do not know how to elevate themselves except through the medium of writing, they come to ask me for help… it is very comforting for me to be able to help them.

I wanted to share my experience with you, because unlike the other experiences I have just read that went wrong, mine turned out to be a calling, a revelation, and an answer to my spiritual search.
I advise against anyone practicing spiritism unless accompanied by an experienced person, and especially not out of curiosity; entities from the lower astral are always on the prowl. One must know how to protect oneself, but above all, one must know what life after death is like.

I am still in contact with them from time to time, offering my help… and I have never been obsessed over or mistreated, nor have I had any unpleasant surprises, but always a message of love and comfort…

Never ask material questions, but always for the purpose of spiritual elevation.

Here is my story; I wouldn't have enough room to explain it all to you, as there are so many surprising and incredible truths in the messages.

friendship

Eliana :wink:

Dear Eliana,

I read with great interest your family experience related to spiritualism.

I felt a great deal of love and respect in this family quest.

I fully share your opinion that these acts of spiritualism, performed with the aim of spiritual elevation through love and self-giving, can only bring positive elements that are likely to enrich us inwardly.

For my part, I have had a few unprovoked experiences, natural manifestations, perhaps linked to spiritualism, but I have never tried to take advantage of them through material inquiries; on the contrary, I have sought to adopt a humble attitude in the face of these situations, praying and trying to define the message or messages that were destined for me.

It is a certain fact that one should never "tease the clever one," nor ever invoke the beyond without protecting oneself through prayer and our spirituality, for through this communication with the beyond, we awaken, attract, and set in motion the harmful miasmas from which it is very difficult to rid oneself.

Thank you for this beautiful story and this wonderful experience; please accept my respect and my warm thoughts for you and your loved ones.

Hello Éliana and Josy,

You are absolutely right when you say that one must practice for spiritual purposes.
In any case, people who are bothered are generally so by mischievous or malicious spirits, but rarely, if ever, by demonic spirits. Moreover, I believe that when one is bothered, one should not stop and go for days, or even months, without practicing, but rather pray a great deal. On the other hand, I do not understand; I have had my own experiences in this regard, and each time, I felt vibrations in the spine (kundalini) that were transmissions of vibrations of peace, serenity, and joy, which indicated the presence of an elevated spirit. Of course, on the rare occasions when the vibrations were unpleasant, by exercising strong will and with love, compassion, and prayer, I managed to drive away the unwanted entity.
Ultimately, I believe that when one touches the invisible, it must be done cautiously, without rushing anything and without naivety either, hence the value of being accompanied by an authoritative figure in the matter.

Sincerely/Lemaire

Good afternoon, ladies,
I read all your posts and I am honestly disappointed and my heart aches.
The reason for one of them is this: I did not practice spiritism to make a living or for any reason whatsoever. I did it alone, naively, and I was not assisted by anyone. Being a novice and reckless, and knowing nothing about the subject, I did myself harm, and that harm was done to no one but me. I think they were mischievous spirits and not demonic ones; otherwise, I would have killed quite a few people. I should not continue, but how can I get treated, since somewhere it is “forbidden” and ill-regarded? Afterward, the person who was treating me wanted me to work with the entities, and I did not want to.
Best regards
Ladysally

Dear Ladysally

I am sorry to see that you are disappointed. However, our reflections were focused on the spiritual goal. As for you, it might be wise to buy Allan Kardec’s book titled The Book of Spirits. This would certainly allow you to get rid of the mischievous entities and move forward with advice and explanations from an experienced author.

Sincerely/Lemaire

Hello Ladysally,

Why are you disappointed? I did not intend in any way to hurt anyone by sharing my experience, and I believe we each have our own goals and reasons for undertaking such an experience. You say that you were alone, naive, and inexperienced; that is truly problematic in this kind of experience. One should never do this without the guidance of a medium or someone experienced in this field. It is normal that you attracted negative entities, but how do you feel these entities? Do you no longer feel in control of your destiny? What do they make you do? You know that you can drive them away by praying a great deal so that they rise to the higher astral and no longer bother you… Why do you say “how to heal myself”? I would like you to explain a bit!

You know, we have had some farcical and prankster entities as well, but you need to know how to recognize them by their writings and messages, and ask them to kindly leave and make room for others, or ask them what they want by coming to you. Prayers, yes, prayers are the best way to drive them away and help them.
Stop the experiment immediately, even the writing, and only resume when you feel stronger and better equipped to send them out or simply help them rise.

Why did the person who was treating you want you to work with entities? I don’t understand…

You are the best medicine for your liberation, and if you persist in helping them through prayer, you will have the satisfaction of receiving their thanks…

friendship

Eliana :wink:

Hello Ladysally,

Don't be sad, and remind yourself that in any difficult situation, it is possible to find a solution to overcome the difficulties.

You did these experiments on your own, not realizing that there might be some minor inconveniences.

You are a fairly strong and determined person, and I am convinced that you will find the path and direction that will henceforth guide your efforts in this field.

Trust yourself, let your inner flame shine, and move toward that positive light that will elevate your spirituality through prayer, and those tricksters will no longer have any effect. Above all, never forget to protect yourself. You were right not to agree to play with those entities.

May your heart no longer be pained, and take this disappointment as a positive sign, for you are now stronger than before. In every negative situation, there is something positive to be gained.

Have a good day :slight_smile: :-*

P.S. It seems to me that we are not all ladies on this thread; I think a gentleman has joined us. :wink:

Hello Lemaire692
Yes, I know it wasn't my intention to hurt you, but I don't know how to explain it—I felt a pang in my heart. Don't worry, I'm strong and I quickly got over the situation. I've already read Allan Kardec online, but I haven't bought the book.
Thank you.
Best regards
Ladysally

Hello Eliana,
Of course, everyone can share their experience, and that is what this site is for: sharing experiences, dreams, and tarots.
Without holding a grudge against you, I felt a pang in my heart at the way you narrated your experience, as if everyone did it for money or something…
It’s been a long time since I told my story about spiritualism, and apparently you haven’t read it. It’s done in a very soft way, without wanting to make a living by working with entities.
Saying that you are haunted makes people look at you in a weird way.
When you say you are a medium, they try to get a free session.
The psychic who first received me wanted me to work with him, or without him but with the entities.
Since my tender youth (1980), I have not stopped going to healers, priests, imams, and psychics, and here I am, still not cured.
I don’t always call the entity; it’s rare that I need its service. From the little I’ve had to deal with, it told me it was a woman and that it was there for me, to help me, that it loved me like its daughter. The last psychic in question told me it didn’t want to harm me and that if it wanted to, it could stay. In one of my posts, I said that one, I dismissed it, and two, I no longer worry about it and that I no longer ask for its service.
Finally, here it is, my dear Eliana. If you have any questions, I can answer them.
Best regards
Ladysally

Hello Josy,
My heart was aching, but I’m starting to feel better now. That’s just how I am; fortunately, I bounce back quickly.
A painful experience I went through: naivety, loneliness, inexperience, recklessness—basically, the whole package.
Well, my approach is to pray, not to call on her, and to be strong, because apart from me, no one can help me. Not a psychic, not a priest, not a medium, not family, no one.
Generally, it’s hard to get away with it cheaply. Don’t take these matters lightly.
I'm giving you a big hug, ladysally

Hello Ladysally,

In the end, our various exchanges have made you react; it is a shame that your heart was hurt. But from that impression, that aspect, it has allowed you to bring out what you had deep in your heart. You see that situations that may seem negative, since they brought out a certain disappointment, have set you partially free and thus allowed you to find the positive.

In some ways we are alike, because like you, I experience things viscerally, even crudely, which sometimes makes me react very quickly, but I also bounce back psychologically quite fast, so I can only understand your reaction.

You are now aware of the origin of certain difficulties, you have been able to free your heart, and you have taken a major step toward what you call healing. It is true that no one—neither a psychic, nor a religious figure, nor the people in your circle—can truly provide you with what you need to overcome what is causing you difficulty. You, and you alone, hold the key to success. This success is present in the deepest part of you, and it is by praying with all the strength of your love and your spirituality that you will discover this light, thereby driving away these entities.

Love yourself, trust in yourself, protect yourself; the divine will be there to help you.

If you have any questions or need help, I will be there to help and offer you all my support in complete humility. You are not alone; if you haven’t read it, please read the story of the bridge I put in my signature.

Big kisses :-*

Hello Josy77,
I just wanted to show that I did not agree, and that was to show the result I had with my multiple experiments. It is true that after each negative, we have positives.
For the positive, I now count only on myself and on no one else.
I’ve been hit so many times, even with low blows, that I had to defend myself on my own, which explains my reactions: a twinge and then the colors.
Yes, I must pray a lot for my personal harmony, for the deliverance of my body and my spirit.
But my dear Josy77, I know that you are all there; it’s not because we share our point of view that everything has to fall apart between us. I said I had a pang in my heart, and that was the case. I say and repeat that I do not want to harm anyone in any way. We live in a country where democracy and mutual respect prevail. I thank you for your presence, each and every one of you, and I thank you personally, you who, for trivialities for some and real problems for others, manage to grasp the issue.
I'm hugging you tight
Kind regards
Ladysally

Dear Ladysally,

The fact that I shared my experience with spiritualism was not intended to suggest that one cannot make money through spiritualism... I never thought of that; I am a bit disappointed by your reaction.

I think I am right not to participate in discussions on this or any other topic, because, whether willingly or not, trying to explain one's experiences and background often leads to many contradictions without intending to target anyone.

To conclude, I would say this: prayer has been and will always be my only recourse in my distress, my pains, my sufferings, but also my joys. It is the only and greatest happiness I have found throughout my earthly journey.

all my friendship

Eliana

Hello Eliana,

It’s a shame that you no longer want to participate in the forum discussions; your experiences seemed more than interesting to me. On the other hand, without wanting to defend ladysally, I think she didn’t fully understand the account of your experience and got defensive. Lastly, prayer is exactly as you described it, but don’t forget that without forgiveness, prayer no longer means much.

Consequently, I dare to hope that you will continue to share your experiences, which are so enriching.

Sincerely/Lemaire

Hello Eliana,
I didn’t say that you did it on purpose, but the fact that you said it out of curiosity, didn’t ask any material questions, etc., plus the posts that followed one after the other, made me think that. I am so preoccupied with these things that I am also sad about my negative experience and do not want anyone else to be stuck in the same dead end as me.
But you must not be afraid to express how you feel, dear Eliana; if I have hurt you in turn, please forgive me. One thing is that humans can express themselves by speaking and communicating, etc.
It is precisely the exchanges that make us grow and shape who we are; we help one another even if we believe otherwise, and yet that is how it is.
Thank you for your advice, and I’m trying to do my best.
Friendly
Ladysally

Hello Lemaire692,
Hello Eliana,
Of course, as you say, your own story and experience are also needed, but here’s the thing: it didn’t go well for me, and I don’t want other people to think it’s all great, when there’s also the descent into hell. I had the will and a hell of a character ;D to survive.
There have been times when I was taken for a madwoman, for a sick person, for a lost soul, and here I am with my experiences.
I ask you to understand me and not to hold it against me, my dear Eliana. I admire and respect you.
If we need to exchange, don't leave the part unfinished like that.
Best regards
Ladysally

Dear Ladysally,

I don’t hold it against you at all; everyone has their own way of taking things, even if my experience with spiritism and many other things has only enriched my search, my quest in this world of suffering and misfortune.

You know, I’ve experienced a lot of suffering in my life too, like everyone else on this earth. Having always had a different perspective from others has helped me cope with all that suffering.

Let us help one another; that is our earthly and spiritual path. It is what I have always wanted to do and what I continue to do, thus hoping to clear my difficult karma.

As you say, it’s the exchanges that make us grow, and any negative experience can yield only positive outcomes—that’s something I’ve learned too… being on the brink, no longer seeing the end of the tunnel, feeling misunderstood, being alone, fighting alone, so much inner suffering… I managed to get my head above water, sometimes with great difficulty.

I firmly believe that our spiritual and earthly journey must be achieved through understanding others.

I encourage you to do your best to get out of this dead end, and given your strength of character, I am certain you will succeed.

all my friendship
Eliana

Hello Eliana,
I am glad, my dear Eliana, that with this you were able to grow despite the experiences of spiritism, misfortunes, etc., which led you to clarity.
Yes, I have the impression that the more we suffer and the more we understand, the more our vision of things changes in life.
I fully understand that to purify your karma, you do a tremendous amount of work to help others. Through spirituality, astrology, and self-giving.
Thank you for your presence and advice regarding the prayers.
Kind regards
Ladysally

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