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Virtue

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We discussed wisdom in a previous thread.

I am curious to know what you think about virtue and how you define it.

What is virtue?

Good evening, Tom

Your thread on virtue is very interesting; it seems to me that there are several definitions of virtue, such as justice, temperance, prudence, and fortitude.
For me, that would be the definition of tolerance (it is wisdom), solidarity (one must always help one's neighbor), and finally, benevolence (the gift of oneself without expecting anything in return).

The topic is up, kisses to everyone

Véronique the Cicada

Good evening, Tom!
Just like sebsylam, whose analysis I agree with!!
For me, virtue is looking at myself in the mirror every day and being proud of myself, even though we don't follow the same path as most people!
Stick to your course no matter what people say about you… remain true to your deep convictions even if they upset certain people, and act with your heart no matter what happens…
Knowing how to be fair with our convictions without hindering the convictions of others!!
Listen, respect, but follow your own path…
Forgiving those who have hurt us is not always easy… but holding no grudge.
Don't force yourself to do things against your will...
JUST BE YOURSELF!!!
REMOVE THE MASKS AND BE NATURAL DESPITE SOME OF OUR WEAKNESSES
Here's Tom…
and thank you for this new thread you are opening for us

Looking forward to sharing on this thread
Kisses to everyone
Marie

Good evening Tom,

Virtue begins with respect for oneself and others, and it is this that leads us to tolerance, which in turn guides us toward wisdom over time.

My regards
The magician.

Hello!

And thank you for this new topic of discussion.
First of all, Tom, just as you yourself did for wisdom, I am reporting here what the Wikipedia encyclopedia says about it:

Definition

Virtue is usually defined as a habit of the will, acquired through the repetition of actions, which enables a person to act well.
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This definition applies to the moral virtues, and in particular to justice, which indeed has its seat in the will. Moreover, it is a definition by the four causes:
habitus, a kind of acquired dynamism, defines virtue by its formal cause;
of the will names the seat of virtue, and therefore its material cause;
acquired through the repetition of acts reveals the origin of virtue, and thus its efficient cause;
What empowers man to act well names the goal to be achieved, and thus the final cause.

Division

Human virtues are divided into moral and intellectual virtues. Both are acquired and ordered to a properly human good.

In contrast to the latter, the theological virtues (faith, hope, and charity) are infused and ordered to a properly divine good.

The cardinal virtues, finally, comprise the moral virtues of courage, temperance, and justice, as well as the intellectual virtue of prudence. They are the ones around which all other moral virtues revolve and to which they are attached.

Moral virtues

Moral virtues are powers that enable one to act well within a given sphere of activity. Thus:
Courage enables one to persevere in the pursuit of a difficult good.
Prudence indicates reasoned conduct.
Temperance enables one to use the appropriate measure in the enjoyment of delightful goods.
Justice, at last, enables one to give each person their due.

Each of the four moral virtues we have just named finds its seat in human sensibility.
Courage governs the combative sensitivity, called the irascible.
Temperance governs the pleasure-seeking sensibility, called the concupiscible.
Justice regulates rational sensitivity, called will.

Intellectual virtues

The intellectual virtues are powers that enable one to attain truth in a given sphere. They therefore find their seat in reason. There are usually five intellectual virtues: intelligence, science, and wisdom on the one hand, and art and prudence on the other. The former are speculative, while the latter two are practical.

Speculative
Intelligence is that by which we grasp notions and principles. For example, what an even number is.
Science is the habit by which we grasp the truth of a conclusion through that of its principles. For example, that six is an even number, since an even number is divisible into two equal whole numbers, and the number six meets this requirement.
Wisdom, composed of intelligence and knowledge, enables one to grasp the most noble and most difficult concepts and conclusions. For example, that the number expressing the length of the side of a square whose area is equal to two is neither even nor odd.

Practices
Art is a skill in the order of manufactured things. It aims at the production of a good external to man.
Prudence is a skill in the realm of the exercise of freedom and action. It aims to build up the person themselves.

The first letter of each of the five intellectual virtues can be used to form the Latin word sapis, which stands for wisdom. This is presented as follows:
S = Science;
A = Art;
P = Prudence;
I = Intelligence;
S = Wisdom.

General considerations

Virtue is a concept at the intersection of the sets of philosophy, religion, and politics, which in our time is encapsulated by political correctness, and which was formerly defined as the virtuous human, that is, one who makes the most of circumstances to act with as much nobility as possible and who has a moral “good habit.”

In the classical plot, taken up by Hellenized Judaism and Christianity, four cardinal virtues (from the Latin “cardo,” pivot) are distinguished among all virtues: prudence, temperance, fortitude, and justice. Christianity also speaks of three “theological virtues” (faith, hope, and charity).

We also speak of three “Masonic virtues,” namely tolerance, benevolence, and solidarity.

In his Summa Theologica, Saint Thomas Aquinas reminds us that justice is the only virtue that involves others, all the others being able to be practiced alone.

In Marcel Granet’s “Chinese Thought,” virtue has a meaning and value different from those attributed by Western thought.

So we have a choice! Although I think it’s all one and the same.

Kind regards

Is mediumship a virtue?

Hello Tom!

This is just my personal opinion!!
But for me, yes, mediumship is a virtue, for this virtue has been given to you as a gift from heaven to see and to open the eyes and, above all, the hearts of people in distress who are seeking their path.

Good to you.
Friendship
Marie

Hello Tom!

Mediumship is a gift that can become a virtue through the help it can provide to others.

My regards
The magician.

Thank you, magician; indeed, it is what we do that can be virtuous or not.
However, Marie's message really strikes a chord with me!

Indeed, if clairvoyance is a gift… how could it not be virtuous?

I believe that life is also a gift and that it is what we make of it; we have a choice.

The gift of clairvoyance that some have received is subject to their free will and personal choices.

They can choose to exploit this power to enrich themselves, they can choose to give, or simply to exchange and honestly sell their services.

It is what they do with this gift that will determine whether it is virtuous or not.

I completely agree with you, Marie and Tom.

Of course life is a gift; let's say when future parents choose to make that gift.

How can one know if they truly have a gift? This could, of course, be the subject of another thread. I will not, therefore, dwell on my question.

Good evening, Catherine,

We can know or believe that we have a gift, and do so with complete humility, when others share with us the benefit we have on them, when others tell us or thank us for what we have been able to bring to them.
And on the other hand, the one who is said to have a gift is generally a modest person who does not seek glory.

Warm regards
The magician.

All done.

Moreover, I think that when you have a gift, you have it, you know it.

Hello Tom!
If my post interests you, all the better!
I don't know how to write correctly.
I feel it, but the rest of the posts talk about it!!
So I have nothing to add!
If I could have just one thing, thank you to Magic for this gift he has
and this without a pedestal!! :wink:
Kisses
Marie

Hello to you all

I agree with you, lemagicien, and also with Tom.

We all have a gift; some develop it while remaining humble and helping their neighbors, while others think they have one, flaunt it, and profit at the expense of others.

If I can help someone, even just by listening, I don't hesitate; I do it, and if I have been able to help that person in their pain or in any way, I am happy about it.
Perhaps it is virtue?

Big kisses from the cicada of the south

Véronique

Virtue is not so easy!

It’s funny what you’re saying, sebsylam… by listening, I mean by doing nothing, we help others.

That's true. Often.

Words are silver, but silence is gold!

Often, silence is a virtue, or rather, knowing when to remain silent and being a good listener is a virtue.

But what is virtue?

Hello,

OK, with Sebsylam!

Someone in pain often needs our listening, but not our advice.
In such cases, virtue consists in knowing how to listen to her without responding, without trying to impose our opinion.
And even though we have not expressed any opinion, the intensity of our listening will have been a valuable help for him.
Because what is good and right for us is not necessarily so for him. His truth is not ours.
A form of virtue is having the wisdom to respect the other person’s truth, to preserve their integrity.

Friendship

Hello to you all!!
Nothing to add to this very eloquent post!!
I'm just going to add these few lines!
who helped me and whom I thank on this same occasion
This person, full of light, is up to you to take
or to throw…

True discernment begins
part to analyze oneself
in his motives, his desires,
its goals, and self-interests…
It is essential that you clearly know
Who are you?
Who do you serve in your life?
Which path are you walking on?
Where are your steps leading you?
What is your true interest?

Kisses to you
Marie

Hi everyone from Marseille

Thank you, marie59, for your post, which allowed me to analyze myself—something I had never done before. I answered the questions.
Who am I?
At first glance, I am Véronique, but who I truly am and how many lives I have lived to get to today is a great mystery to me.

Who do you serve in your life?
Due to my Catholic faith, I should say "the Lord," but I have my own ideas and I try to serve those who need it.

Which path are you walking on?
I always try to find the right and just path, which is not always easy; sometimes, to do good, you have to do harm.

Where are your steps leading you?
I hope my steps will lead me to wisdom so that I may have a happy end of life.

What is your true interest?
I have always been sure, since I was very young, that I wanted to help others. I found through my profession the ability to do so, and I will not change course. Today, I am convinced of it.

And to answer Tom, virtue has a thousand definitions; each person will find their own in what they bring to the other.

In any case, this thread has been an epiphany for me regarding the true meaning of life. I am certain that we come to earth to fulfill a mission. I have found mine, and I hope that before I leave, I will be told that I was a virtuous person; otherwise, I will return in another life.

Kisses to everyone
Véronique

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